“Regarding Record Labels”: a reply
Friday, June 16th, 2006In a reply to yesterday’s e-mail exchange, Robin K, webster of Disobey the Radio in the UK shoots back another interesting e-mail offering me hope of a worldwide realization to the fraud of copyright in general. While Robin and I don’t come from the same political beliefs, I think this is a key relationship that can help bring both sides to common terms of agreement. In my experience, most anti-copyright advocates (not necessarily Robin, though!) come from the ultra-left wing establishment. They want MORE State-control of business, without realization that it is this State-control that hurts the artists and consumers the most. I’m not certain of Robin’s political leanings, but I’m glad that we agree on many different aspects of creative content control.
Read you post last night. It was very well worded and clear.
I already think along the same lines as you regarding copyright. The radio station seems like an isolated voice at the moment, so it would be really good to link up with musicians who believe in the same ideals.
I definitely agree. I am also looking for musicians to produce/finance who are interested in making their music freely distributable and will accept the CopyMoral ideals (that I am still working on). We have almost US$50,000 in donations we’ve received, or have been promised, that we haven’t done anything with — we want to finance music, podcasts, videos, etc.
If its ok, I’d like to take some quotes from your post to get a new section of the site started. This would concern the reasons why artists should consider free art. (I’ll run it past you first before I put it on the site)
I don’t believe in copyright (grin) so you’re free to quote all you want. While I appreciate an inbound link as reference, I don’t require it, either. Use whatever you want in whatever way you want, with or without referring to me. Information is free on all my sites.
I am still working through my thoughts regarding creative commons and copyleft, but your arguements against them are obvious. They are only relevant if you can afford to play in that legal framework.
Exactly. Why is copying wrong? Because it is _immoral_ and we all know how well laws work for morality. I see no reason to make drug use, prostitution and racism illegal — while I think these things _could_ be bad in the minds of _some_ people, the only way to change society is to convince them by being a positive example.
We all want to believe that government is by the people and for the people, but it isn’t. Government is force, and once the person you elect gets into office, they change. The taste of power seems to corrupt everyone, and you may even believe they’re doing good just based on speeches and a few laws passing. You don’t see behind the scenes, though, and no one can truly appreciate the full injustice caused by the unintended consequences of State-control of markets. It is very important to convince the left-wing movement to stop using the word “business” as evil, and instead look at every business transaction as a unique market of two individuals. Music is perfectly defined in this way, too. A musician can play for a variety of profits — ego gain, financial gain, fame, etc. A fan can listen for a variety of reasons — education, entertainment, and intrigue. They both profit from the exchange of music when it is played live; musicians need to look at digital music as profitable in a ego/fame sense because it does gain them fans who might gain them a financial profit later. Digital music is marketing and investing, not really a good sellable product.
I’d like to give you a little more background on the radio project: you can skip this bit if you want.
It’s been set up to encourage all musicians to contribute their work to a showcase of local Sheffield, UK talent. Sheffield is getting a lot of attention in the media here at the moment due to bands such as the ‘Arctic Monkeys’ and ‘The Reverand and The Makers’. It would be good to make the most use of the attention while it lasts to help promote some more musicians. The site offers a studio facility that is free for any artist to use.I want to financially support studios that provide inexpensive recording services to artists. We are opening our own studio to help musicians, videographers, podasters and painters get free recording. Get me more information on Sheffield, UK.
They just have to agree to work under the name ‘The Disoedients’ and have an egoless and collaborative frame of mind. All the results of this work are released for free. People are encouraged to copy this music. It is used as a way of promoting the radio site, which in turn promotes all the Sheffield artists. Any money that is made (in theory, this remains to happen) is used to cover running and promotion costs for the radio. Again, this supports all those who have contributed material.
Very cool, let me know what you need to get more promotion. I can print 11×17 full color posters to ship to you if they’ll help (free of charge). I don’t really like the term “egoless” only because I am a capitalist so I love the idea of ego/profit as long as it hurts no one else’s property, but I can come to accept it, hah.
Remember, I am probably 180 degrees away from the usual anti-copyright people. I’m not a left winger liberal, I’m a pro-market capitalist. Most people think capitalism is _bad_ but they don’t realize that what they’re against is not capitalism but state-mercantilism: the protection of big industry by the government so that everyone is harmed. Real capitalism just means that two parties come together to trade with one another, and both parties make a profit of some kind in the trade. Profit means “personal gain of some sort” and isn’t a bad word — it is when government forces profits that we have problems.
There is a section on the web site for this ‘house band’, which we hope to extend over time. An explaination of what they’re about, and why the music is free needs to be added, but I am still struggling with an elegant and clear statement.
I’ll browse the site more today, I am helping with a music video shoot this weekend, so I’m a bit harried. I still don’t like the term “free” though because the music isn’t free, just the distribution of the music is no cost. We need a better term.
Sheffield has a lot of talent that seems to stay locked away on individuals hard drives, simply because they don’t know what to do with it. A lot of the people who have contributed music have given up on the dream of making a living at it, and have steady jobs.
If they want to further the art of music, instead of just distributing MP3 mixes of their music, they should distribute and share individual tracks, too. Can you imagine how powerful the movement would be if different artists can share different tracks of different songs? Mash-ups are wildly popular, why not jump on promoting the sharing of individual unmixed tracks?
In my opinion, these musicians are now free to make music for musics sake, without the pressing need to make a financial profit as their sole source of income. This just leads to market followers and stale music.
I agree but I don’t differentiate between ego-profit, art-promotion profit and financial profit. Any gain a person gets is a profit, even if it is just a “I’m happier” profit. There is nothing wrong with financial profit if it means that people are paying you to help make them happy again in the future. Stale music comes more from the cartelization and control of the copyright cartels who disallow new music styles and experimentation — ask any signed band how their wrists are cuffed in trying new things. It isn’t money that makes music stale, it is the control of the music by the distribution monopolies that keep it stale.
So free music is free on a number of levels. Artistically and financially. When we have a market that can be as diverse as listeners tastes we will have something to smile about. This is happening now, slowly, I can see it.
Again I dislike the term free (I’m sure it’ll be a long debate, hah) for music. Artists SHOULD appreciate some financial gain for music that their fans like. Here is a link to why I believe money is good: Making Money. I believe that money is a store of your time, and when someone pays you money to do something, they’re paying you to save them time from doing it themselves. When a person wants entertainment, they could spend time learning how to act or play an instrument or paint a picture. They don’t want to spend hundreds of hours learning it, though, so they pay a little of their stored time (”money”) to someone with a talent, and that talented person pays the person back in the added entertainment. Money is not evil — the control of industry by the law and the favored parties of the law is evil.
Would be really good to stay in touch and discuss this stuff. It’s not often that I meet people who have already thought about this. It’s normally me who has to talk them into it!
You have no idea how many beatings I get from artists and non-artists in regards to copyright. When they try to defend copyright, I ask them how they’ll afford to defend it. Then I ask them why people don’t copy their music and the answer is — “Because they know it’s wrong.” When a band is small, they get few pirates, because the fans really want the band to do well. When the band is huge, the number of pirates goes up but the main fans will still pay the band to make more. I’m against copyright because I think it creates this market of maybe a few dozen bands a year that earn massive money, but it keeps the thousands of other bands down because those bands aren’t willing to play the game in the way that the distribution cartels want them to. By repudiating copyright, we’ll see more opportunities for bands to promote themselves in an more united way.
I’m not against a person or group profiting in the way they want to. Some bands want money, some want fame, some just want to create, some want appreciation, some want drugs and liquor. Each individual is free to use their time and bodies as they wish — just as I think fans are free to use their time and bodies to copy digital data or recreate notes and lyrics on their own property, with their own tools and bodies.
Discuss this at the No Copyright Studios forum.